Log in or Sign up. Bike Talk motorcycle forum. Welcome to Bike Talk, a forum for all bikers and motorcycle enthusiasts. If you are new to Bike Talk, be sure to register for free and join the conversation. There's always someone around willing to help out with questions or give a friendly wave back. All Harley and metric riders are welcome. What does a hydraulic lifter sound like when it goes bad?
I've had this strange rattling sound in the front of my engine for a couple weeks.
Now that its cold here, I've definately determined that it is affected by oil temperature I thought I had isolated it to the oil filter Even though I put new lifters in with my gear drive cams last winter, I'm wondering if I don't have one going south on me. So can anyone help me rule that out or in? SeahagOct 27, Joined: Sep 29, Messages: 17 Likes Received: 0. I would like to hear what the symptoms of a bad lifter are also. Anybody know? The thing to keep in mind about lifters is,that when you put in adjustable lifters if they go out of adjustment it will throw your timing off to the point where the motor will miss badly.
Lets say the front jug has a lifter out of adjustment, you will still have a spark at the plug but it will be out of time. Also be aware that Harley makes the same size oil filter for your particular bike but, they come in different size microns of filtration. If for instance your using the wrong size micron filter it will slow the flow of the oil going thru the filter, thru the lifter and into the top of the jug, until the oil warms up and thins out.
First Is your motor missing, or sounds like the spark plugs are fouled out? Next, check to see what size micron filter you are using. If those two check out the rattle may be radiating from the primary chain. Check the tension of the primary chain. One of those above may be the problem. And lastly keep in mind that adjustable push rods will sound louder than stock rods.View Full Version : tri glide ticking noise sounding like a lifter. I took my 07 Ultra in with a little noisy top end Valve float That is laughable.
How do they know the valve seat is leaking? Did they take off the exhaust? I would be looking at another dealer since your in warranty.
I would be looking at another dealer since your in warranty ThumbUp My thoughts exactly, I'd run as fast and as far away from that dealer as I can. At least they are looking in to it Most noises seem to either get worse to the point where they can be diagnosed or they go away on their own. Either situation is good.
Nothing worse for owners and service departments than intermittent issues that aren't there when it is time for a diagnosis. Every engine will make some valve train noise as they get miles on them.
Some more, some less. If your paying attention and hear more noise than normal, well it is possible there is a underlying issue happening. Keep in mind that even with a new set of lifters there could still be some noise. The valve train takes a beating both in the physical sense as well as the heat cycles it endures.
The oil pump can lose some pressure over time and not supply the same pressure as before to the lifters. Which in turn they do not pump up as much with the possibility of making some valve train noise. Other noises can be related to vibration at certain rpms.
There is a myriad of places to look for noises you hear as you ride or the engine is at idle. How many miles on it? I just passed the 80k mark on my '10 and no valve noise, but gaskets were replaced not long ago and I paid for new rings.
My 10 has done it since first service my dealer says it is normal and said get louder pipes. My 10 has done it since first service my dealer says it is normal and said get louder pipes Almost the same with my 11, Then one day I changed out the pipes for cat less true duels and slip-ons, 30 thousand miles since then and haven't heard a peep outa them.
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Originally Posted by FuzzyWuzHe. Man you are gonna have to teach me how to do that. Originally Posted by msocko3. My thoughts exactly, I'd run as fast and as far away from that dealer as I can.
Enjoy life now! Originally Posted by pcombe. Oh come on cant they find a better one than valve float? What oil do you use?
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I have miles on my '14 TG, and it seems I hear lifter noise, at times very faint, sometimes louder, but the dealer says it is normal, get used to it. I still have 3 years left in my warranty, and plan on piling on the miles and trusting it to get me through. Of course, I am looking for a different dealer to get a second opinion Hi, my name is Mark and I used to be a chromeaholic!
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Replies: 15 Last Post:AM. Replies: 14 Last Post:PM. Replies: 5 Last Post:AM. Bookmarks Bookmarks Digg del. All times are GMT Photo by Michael Horne. The Harley hogs routinely violate noise ordinances in Milwaukee and its suburbs, not mention cities and towns and rural hamlets across the nation.
Just how widespread is the problem? But police in most cities have far bigger problems to deal with, and so the scofflaw Harley riders get ignored, free to continue assaulting the ears of innocent Americans everywhere.2007 and Later Harley Primary Issues
Milwaukee, of course, presents a special case: this is the home town of Harley-Davidsonthe headquarters for the Harley Museum, the hallowed soil where the Harley mythology was invented. Which of course means we get to be engulfed with more Harley Hogs and Harley noise than any other city on the planet.
Call it Brew City patriotism; along with beer, brats and bowling, we must also salute that scruffily cool Harley lifestyle. Some years ago the Milwaukee Common Council decided it had enough of those car stereo systems with the bumping basses blasting through town.
You can typically hear one of these auto assaulters from a good block away. But a Harley hog? And most bikes get modified.
To get a feel for the loudness of Harley pipes, consider how decibels are measured. For example, 90 decibels is four times as loud as 70 decibels and decibels — the noise level that just one Harley may approach — is about 16 times as loud. Many residents complained and Ald. In Milwaukee, police can stop a vehicle if it can be heard 50 feet away. Harleys can easily be heard 1, feet away. But have you ever heard of a Harley rider in Milwaukee being ticketed for excessive noise? Never heard of a ticket being issued.
A study by the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration found that motorcyclists were overwhelmingly responsible for causing accidents with passenger vehicles. In nearly three-fourths of the two-vehicle motorcycle crashes involving passenger vehicles, the motorcycle was the striking vehicle. Motorcyclists were 2. As the quote suggests, a modified Harley is more likely to emit air pollution along with the noise pollution.
Displaying political contributions between people mentioned in this story. Learn more. Seriously though, there are few things more obnoxious than these fools. I cannot believe the police continue to tolerate them. This needed to be said. No inner city kid with a booming subwoofer could ever front that argument and get away with it. Often they seem deliberate. Most of them are probably dBA, even the modified ones. There are indeed excessive ones. You state that there is no research showing loud motorcycles save lives.
Whether I like it or not, hearing them does make me more aware of their presence, and I am more aware of the need to check my blind spots. And of course more motorcycle accidents are fatal than bicycle accidents!
Motorcycles travel much faster and ride on the freeway. Your statement that motorcycles were overwhelmingly responsible for accidents is a gross misinterpretation.What are the most common causes and cures for this problem on a fuel injected twin cam motorcycle? Note from the crew:. Popping on deceleration is due to unburnt fuel being ignited in the exhaust. The reason you do not hear this on a bike with a stock exhaust is due to the baffling of the stock exhaust.
It is not only much quieter but also does not allow the fresh air to enter the exhaust due to reversion. This fresh air makes the exhaust hotter think of letting a fire have more oxygen which aids in the combustion of the unburnt fuel. To REDUCE it may not totally go away popping on deceleration first make sure that you do not have any intake or exhaust leaks. If all that checks out then you can alter the fuel curve at closed throttle to help this problem. The value you enter depends on your model and setup.
Also make sure that you synch the Throttle Position so that it reads 0 while the bike is idling. Click here to cancel reply. I have a sportster XLL. I still have the stock intake in place. No reflash or upgrade to ECM. On decel or downshifting I get a lot of popping from the exhaust. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Please advise…. Hi, Trevor.
Yes, this would definitely improve your performance. Check neck bearings for grease and loosness. I own a Harley-Davidson Deluxe which is beautiful. My local HD staff gave me the excuse that back-firing when deaccelerating is normal for a cruiser and stated that all cruisers do this some.
Your opinion, please. Hi Dave. Decel popping is very common. My 07 Ultra Classic has a Power Commander with true duels and O2 sensor bypass harness and have the same exhaust pop.
I guess I am just an old rebel because I like the pop and crack of the exhaust when I back off or let engine hold back speed coming down a mountain road.Click here to cancel reply. Is a weak lifter something that can harm the motor? Should it be replaced? They also suggest I go back to conventional oil.
Right now I use Amsoil. Hi, Dave. What have you done to determine that you have a weak lifter?
2012 Harley-Davidson Twin Cam 103 V-Twin Engine
Without more info we cannot really speculate. Does your bike need a tuner? Was this noise always there, or did it just come about? Are you running 93 octane?
Does the sound go away as you raise the rpms? Or Get louder? Some Harleys do have more valve noise than others. I always use 93, however sometimes I have to add octane boost; however the tick goes away at regular riding RPMS at idle it may or may not return.
Bike had miles it always had a loud noise ticking drives me nuts. Dealer said cant fix it charge you buck pluse your warranty not right. Go buy something that cost you 20 grand I feel they should had taken care of this problem. Been pissed not going to buy loud pips to cover up this noise.
Not happy about this. I even noticed a reduction of power after the service.